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Cocoa: Compiling Framework
buggy
2013-01-04 18:38:53 UTC
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Hello,

when compiling the Scintilla.framework using Framework.mk it crashes with the following lines:

Undefined symbols for architecture i386:
".objc_class_name_CAAnimationGroup", referenced from:
pointer-to-literal-objc-class-name in ScintillaCocoa.o
".objc_class_name_CABasicAnimation", referenced from:
pointer-to-literal-objc-class-name in ScintillaCocoa.o
".objc_class_name_CAGradientLayer", referenced from:
.objc_class_name_FindHighlightLayer in ScintillaCocoa.o
".objc_class_name_CATransaction", referenced from:
pointer-to-literal-objc-class-name in ScintillaCocoa.o
"_kCAFillModeForwards", referenced from:
-[FindHighlightLayer animateMatch:bounce:] in ScintillaCocoa.o
"_kCATransactionAnimationDuration", referenced from:
-[FindHighlightLayer animateMatch:bounce:] in ScintillaCocoa.o
ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture i386
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Well, you can compile the Framework using XCode 4.5.2 targeting 10.7 and 32bit compiling with LLVM GCC 4.2. That worked well, until it comes to SCI_UNDO! It does always undo all steps backwards to the last call of SCI_SETUNDOCOLLECTION. That is strange behavior... Have tested this with Scintilla 3.2.1, Scintilla 3.2.2 and Scintilla 3.2.3! I'm pretty sure, that I've compiled several versions of Scintilla with XCode on 10.7 targeting 10.6 SDK without that issue.

Can anybody confirm this, or am I the only one with not enough skills to compile Scintilla on OS X 10.8?
Does Framework.mk fix this strange behavior, if it would run?

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2013-01-04 23:15:19 UTC
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The Xcode project is the maintained way to build.
Post by buggy
pointer-to-literal-objc-class-name in ScintillaCocoa.o
Needs to link to the QuartzCore framework.
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Well, you can compile the Framework using XCode 4.5.2 targeting 10.7 and 32bit compiling with LLVM GCC 4.2. That worked well, until it comes to SCI_UNDO! It does always undo all steps backwards to the last call of SCI_SETUNDOCOLLECTION.
Haven't seen that in SciTE which does call SCI_SETUNDOCOLLECTION. Its normally built with current Xcode on 10.7.

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buggy
2013-01-05 14:53:06 UTC
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Hello Neil,

thank you for the answer! But it does not help. Today I've did several
steps of testing on several systems and OS versions.
I've startet with your suggestion of 10.7 with latest XCode.

Step 1
- Mac OS X 10.7.5 (fresh installed on secondary Machine)
- XCode (latest Version from AppStore)
- Scintilla 3.2.3
- Compiled ScintillaTest: SCI_UNDO undoes all steps back to "[mEditor
setString: sql];"

Step 2
- Mac OS X 10.8.2 (primary Machine)
- XCode 4.5.2 (latest Version from AppStore)
- Scintilla 3.2.3
- Compiled ScintillaTest: SCI_UNDO undoes all steps back to "[mEditor
setString: sql];"

Step 3
- Mac OS X 10.7.5 (fresh installed on secondary Machine)
- XCode 4.3.3 (from Apple Developers)
- Scintilla 3.2.3
- Compiled ScintillaTest: SCI_UNDO undoes all steps back to "[mEditor
setString: sql];"

Step 4
- Take the MacBook and throw it out of the window!

All compiled well for 32bit and 64bit but had the undo collection issue!

Would somebody mind to add my BlitzMax lexer and compile a 32bit version of
Scintilla 3.2.3 for me?
Just drop me a mail and I will send you the lexer, if somebody is
interested.

cheers
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buggy
2013-01-05 16:09:28 UTC
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Additional Information to my last post:

[Tab], [Backslash] and [Delete] keys count for SCI_UNDO! All other key
strokes like [Enter] or regular char-keys are ignored. Isn't this behavior
a little bit ... erm ... strange? Shouldn't each key stroke count for undo?
I've tested all compiled version (from my last post) only with normal
key-strokes!

Have I missed something while initializing Scintilla?

Sorry for the double-post!

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Matthew Brush
2013-01-05 16:29:58 UTC
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Post by buggy
Hello Neil,
thank you for the answer! But it does not help. Today I've did several
steps of testing on several systems and OS versions.
I've startet with your suggestion of 10.7 with latest XCode.
Step 1
- Mac OS X 10.7.5 (fresh installed on secondary Machine)
- XCode (latest Version from AppStore)
- Scintilla 3.2.3
- Compiled ScintillaTest: SCI_UNDO undoes all steps back to "[mEditor
setString: sql];"
Step 2
- Mac OS X 10.8.2 (primary Machine)
- XCode 4.5.2 (latest Version from AppStore)
- Scintilla 3.2.3
- Compiled ScintillaTest: SCI_UNDO undoes all steps back to "[mEditor
setString: sql];"
Step 3
- Mac OS X 10.7.5 (fresh installed on secondary Machine)
- XCode 4.3.3 (from Apple Developers)
- Scintilla 3.2.3
- Compiled ScintillaTest: SCI_UNDO undoes all steps back to "[mEditor
setString: sql];"
Step 4
- Take the MacBook and throw it out of the window!
All compiled well for 32bit and 64bit but had the undo collection issue!
Would somebody mind to add my BlitzMax lexer and compile a 32bit version of
Scintilla 3.2.3 for me?
Just drop me a mail and I will send you the lexer, if somebody is
interested.
Hi,

I did read the thread but it's unclear to me exactly what is the
problem, it sounds like build environments and undo issues are being
mushed together. I have OSX 10.7 I can try out stuff on, but since it's
a PITA, you would need to answer these questions with clear and specific
answers, leaving anything to do with build environments or compiling out:

* What are you trying to do?
* How is it not working?
* What is the behaviour you are seeing?
* What is the expected behaviour?
* What are the steps (besides compiling Scintilla and test program) that
one would need to perform to reproduce the issue, very specifically?

Maybe I missed some context somewhere or the ML thread got split apart
or some such, sorry if so.

Cheers,
Matthew Brush
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buggy
2013-01-05 16:58:25 UTC
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Hello Matthew,

this might be a language issue too. I'm not very familiar with English...


* What are you trying to do?
I'm trying to understand the undo behavior of Scintilla. When I first
realised there is something "wrong", I've tested an older build of
Scintilla (build in June last year), which does not show this behavior, I
thought it might be a compiling issue with XCode 4.5.2, because I did a new
build of Scintilla yesterday to get the latest version. The whole story
would include an IDE for BlitzMax, a wrap of several frameworks for
BlitzMax including the Scintilla.framework. But before I've posted here,
I've excluded issues in the wrapper.

* How is it not working?
The old build of Scintilla mentioned above undoes each written letter. The
new build doesn't!

* What is the behaviour you are seeing?
Scintilla undoes only Tab, Backslash, Delete and other special action key
presses for me.

* What is the expected behaviour?
Undo on all written letters, space and enter key presses.

* What are the steps (besides compiling Scintilla and test program)
that one would need to perform to reproduce the issue, very specifically?
No other steps! Just compiled in different versions to exclude human
mistakes, system issues and similar things.


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2013-01-05 23:01:30 UTC
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Post by Matthew Brush
* How is it not working?
The old build of Scintilla mentioned above undoes each written letter. The new build doesn't!
Are you seeing the normal coalescing of typing done by Scintilla? If you type "abc" into Scintilla and then undo, all 3 characters are removed.

There was a bug in older versions of Scintilla on Cocoa that might lead to problems with undo after some calls for reading the contents.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/scintilla-interest/x9gSQ0RjR74
https://sourceforge.net/p/scintilla/code/ci/99f8daf92a6fbfb7c6fb4c724e1389cae9e9bb4d/

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pointer-to-literal-objc-class-name in ScintillaCocoa.o
Needs to link to the QuartzCore framework.
If no one is interested in fixing this, perhaps its time to remove cocoa/Framework.mk. If it is left in then people will try to use it, fail, and possibly give up on Scintilla.

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Neil Hodgson
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If no one is interested in fixing this, perhaps its time to remove cocoa/Framework.mk. If it is left in then people will try to use it, fail, and possibly give up on Scintilla.
The make files in cocoa have been removed. Framework.mk, SciTest.mk, and common.mk are gone.

The checkbuildosx.sh script now probes to see which versions of the OS X SDK are installed and builds with each.

http://sourceforge.net/p/scintilla/code/ci/5870138adf093ad110d5cc25e90b89a2d3de3444/

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buggy
2013-01-05 23:56:48 UTC
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Hello Neil,

so this is a feature I've didn't noticed until you told me of it. Thank you
for get this straight now!

I still would prefer letter by letter undo steps, but if this is a feature,
I can learn to life with it.
Or is there an option to disable the coalescing? I mean beside adding my
own undo stack?

I'm sorry for the whole post attack.

cheers

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Post by buggy
I still would prefer letter by letter undo steps, but if this is a feature,
I can learn to life with it.
Or is there an option to disable the coalescing? I mean beside adding my own
undo stack?
There is no option for this. You could try calling begin and end
undo transaction after each keystroke but I'm not certain that would
work.
http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaDoc.html#SCI_BEGINUNDOACTION

Neil
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